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  Anyone know any former long time Bethelites or circuit overseers?

  by BourneIdentity in

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  as you know, when you work your whole life, you pay into social security.

  at retirement, you collect a paycheck from the government based on a percentage of income you drew for all those years.

  do any of you know anyone that had been at bethel for decades and then were laid off?

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  "Cleanliness is next to godliness," said Mario Beltrami, a Witness from Plantation who was helping oversee the prep work at the home of the Florida Panthers hockey team. "We're not finding a lot of dirt. We just like to give it a sprucing up. We want to make sure it's clean for us and our guests."
  More than 20,000 Witnesses went door to door during the past few weeks inviting the public to the convention. The event is free and no collection will be taken.

  Does anyone know where District Overseer Mario Beltrami is today? He should be in his early 70's today. He and his wife were our congregation Overseers and I found them to be a wonderful couple. Mario would come to my house with the local elders to see why I missed so many meetings. I found him to be an honorable man. The local elders were not so kind to me.

  Mario and his wife were transferred to the Fort Lauderdale, Florida area over 10 years ago. The Society provided an apartment in the Fort Lauderdale area for him and his wife. I hope that the Watchtower Society didn't leave him and his wife high and dry.
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  The ineffectiveness of the Watchtower Society preaching work

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

  congregations.

  119,954. members.

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  Yet, on those occasions I have seen JWs in public, they are idly sitting looking bored at their phones with no passersby in sight.

  Two female Jehovah's Witnesses holding coffee cups, sitting on a bench, promoting their message. Castle Terrace, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, UK.

  
  

  
  
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  The ineffectiveness of the Watchtower Society preaching work

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

  congregations.

  119,954. members.

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  As I've posted numerous times - if there really were a "Jehovah", and he really wanted a group to proclaim a "worldwide witness", he'd have fired the JWs decades for the piss-poor hash they are making of their "work".

  sir82....that is exactly the point I'm trying to make! How can a group that has the backing of Jehovah and the ''faithful and discreet slave'', spend billions of hours preaching per year, spent 140 years declaring the ''end times'', have millions of ''bible studies'', print and distribute millions of books and magazines per year...... and in the meantime, the Pentecostals have a greater success in getting out their message and recruitment with little evangelical methods.
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  The ineffectiveness of the Watchtower Society preaching work

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

  congregations.

  119,954. members.

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  And you are treating all Pentecostals as one group. Pentecostals consist of a huge number of different organisations with variations in belief and practice.

  Yes! Even with 700 different denominations, how do they get 279 million members to join? Since they don't go door to door like Jehovah's Witnesses, shouldn't they be admired for their massive membership? Someone wants the hear about Jesus!

  I guess my question is....." How do people hear about Pentecostal churches? Does someone just walk into their church meetings, are you invited to attend, or does the television ministry bring people in?

  Isn't something really wrong with the Watchtower Society message that people actually join other religions?

  Goes to show you that Jehovah is not behind this religion!

  
  
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  The ineffectiveness of the Watchtower Society preaching work

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

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  How can the Watchtower Society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of Watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the Pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?

  Congregations	119,954
  Members	8,579,909

  JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

  
  

  
  

  Comprising over 700 denominations and a large number of independent churches, there is no central authority governing Pentecostalism; however, many denominations are affiliated with the Pentecostal World Fellowship. There are over 279 million Pentecostals worldwide, and the movement is growing in many parts of the world, especially the global South.
  

  
  
  
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  Qualifying For A Kingdom Hall Funeral

  by minimus in

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  one of the most despicable things i can remember is having the elders determining whether or not you “qualified” for proper funeral services in a kingdom hall and if the talk could be given by an elder.

  people are hurting terribly and the family is then told, even though the deceased was a member of the congregation, they still weren’t good enough to qualify for proper burial services per the congregation!

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  One of the most despicable things I can remember is having the elders determining whether or not you “qualified” for proper funeral services in a Kingdom Hall and if the talk could be given by an elder.

  Minimus...Can you tell us what the elders would talk about on who would qualify and who wouldn't?

  What made a good candidate/bad candidate?
  
  
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  Fearmongering : The greatest ploy the Watchtower Society uses against its faithful members

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  "shortly, within our twentieth century*, the "battle in the day of jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of jerusalem, christendom.

  " (the nations shall know that i am jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.

  fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

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  BLONDIE: Isn't Morris the one that said he was in Vietnam during the war? Did he go in battle or was he a pencil pusher?

  
  

  
  
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  Fearmongering : The greatest ploy the Watchtower Society uses against its faithful members

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  "shortly, within our twentieth century*, the "battle in the day of jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of jerusalem, christendom.

  " (the nations shall know that i am jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.

  fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

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  Tameria2001

  Thank you for the video!

  Tony Morris looks very nervous, has shaky hands, looks lost, and doesn't look confident in what he is saying. I think Mr. Anthony Morris is just going through the motions. He knows that Armageddon is never going to happen. Living out the rest of his life in Warwick, New York headquarters is the only thing that is truly going to happen.

  
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  Fearmongering : The greatest ploy the Watchtower Society uses against its faithful members

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  "shortly, within our twentieth century*, the "battle in the day of jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of jerusalem, christendom.

  " (the nations shall know that i am jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.

  fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

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  "Shortly, WITHIN OUR TWENTIETH CENTURY*, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."
  (The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah; 1971; 2nd ed.; p. 216)
  

  

  

  Fearmongering or scaremongering is the spreading of frightening and exaggerated rumors of impending danger or the habit or tactic of purposely and needlessly arousing public fear about an issue.

  
  

  When I was a teen in 1973, my first congregation ''book study'' was ''The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah.'' The book was rather bizarre.... mostly made up fearmongering and exaggerations taken from the book of Ezekiel. The book was about flaming swords, riding chariots, death, birds eating all the dead, the burial of all the bones after Armageddon, and the attack from United Nations against the ''true'' religion, Jehovah's Witnesses.

  That was a really frightening read. I told myself, ''I better get baptized or I'll be one of the dead when Armageddon arrives.''

  Forty-five later, not one thing has ever come true from this book or any other material ever written by the WTBTS.

  Is ''fearmongering'' the greatest ploy the Watchtower Society use against its members and newly converted?

  
  
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  More Watchtower Property For Sale!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. bible

  if this is old news then just scrap it.. .

  looks like more watchtower property is for sale.. .

  https://www.matele.be/bioul-le-centre-des-temoins-de-jehovah-a-vendre.

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  There will be no more Jehovah's Witnesses gatherings in Bioul. The huge property located at the end of the village is for sale for 1.9 million euros.

  According to our colleagues from La Meuse, the huge property has been on sale for six months and unused for a year. The places, located at the exit of the village of Bioul, are as atypical as the activities that were organized there. The center could indeed accommodate several hundred Jehovah during its large assemblies thanks to its four multipurpose rooms, the largest of which could accommodate up to 1,000 people.

  On the site of the real estate agency Trevi Cinecan, responsible for the sale, describes a " real estate complex in perfect condition, consisting of several multipurpose rooms, studios and apartments and a large storage area and workshops in sub ground. "

  Parking included, the total land area is 1.75 hectare. The property is on sale for the sum of 1, 9 million euros.

  The building belonged to the "Congregation" for more than 30 years, but was less and less busy in recent years. Hence the decision to separate from the good.